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Post by Colonel on May 15, 2006 9:58:00 GMT -5
aftermath of Wang trash talking us
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Post by Colonel on May 15, 2006 9:58:43 GMT -5
G3K
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Post by dsbond on May 15, 2006 16:23:04 GMT -5
Is that the g3 sas you ordered? If you've all ready modified the barrel to that length with what doesn't look like pvc pipe ... ridiculous.
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Post by Colonel on May 15, 2006 17:49:52 GMT -5
no, that's an actual gun. it's hard to tell the difference between the toys and the real thing with these HKs
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Post by Doc on May 15, 2006 18:03:00 GMT -5
you have to use Photobucket.com. create an account, then upload your images to the site, and then you will have three different tag lines to copy and paste. for this message board, you use the IMG line. you simply highlight all the information where it says IMG, and paste it in a reply on this board, and it will upload the image. sry technology incompetant
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Post by Colonel on May 22, 2006 9:46:25 GMT -5
an interesting Ruger MK II
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Post by Colonel on May 22, 2006 9:50:02 GMT -5
the HFC USR-11, AKA, the Ruger MK 77/22
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Post by Colonel on May 23, 2006 15:29:29 GMT -5
lifted from SecurityArms.com
SR-47 (Stoner Rifle 47)
August 5, 2002; US Special Operations Command is now using small numbers of a new rifle, the SR-47 (Stoner Rifle 47). This is, basically, an American M4 carbine chambered to fire Russian 7.62x39mm ammunition and to use Russian AK-series magazines. The first six prototypes were rushed to units in Afghanistan last March, and more may have been sent since then (but any numbers are classified). The original idea was to provide special forces a rifle that had all of the "muscle memory" of the M4 carbine (location of the safety, etc.) but which used Russian ammunition. That way, an operator deep in enemy territory could use captured ammunition and would not leave tell-tale US-caliber casings behind. This was a relatively low-priority project until troops fighting their way into Afghan cave complexes found themselves unable to carry enough 5.56mm ammunition while literally awash in 7.62x39mm ammo stored throughout the caves. The original plan had called for the rifle to use American magazines but the special operators insisted that they would rather use "battlefield pick-up magazines". The SR-47 has other changes. US troops are used to hitting the magazine catch and letting gravity remove the empty magazine for them, something that won't work with Russian magazines. So, the SR-47 has an ejector spring to push the empty magazine out once the catch is released. The barrel is free-floating, making the SR-47 the most accurate AK-47 clone in the world. The prototypes shipped so far include sound suppressors, regarded as essential for cave fighting. Theoretical design work has begun on the SR-74 to use the Russian 5.45mm ammunition and magazines, should US forces go into a country that uses that caliber.
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Post by Doc on May 29, 2006 11:08:07 GMT -5
wouldn't it be easier to issue highly upgrded ak47's to our guys
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Post by Colonel on May 30, 2006 9:02:56 GMT -5
the whole point is that it's an M4...a weapon they are used to and already know how it will work, with the positives of the M4 (RIS, RAS, optics, grenade launchers, etc.) already there. not to mention, don't you think it would cost a lot more to make an entirely new gun rather than just throw in a barrel and mag well?
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Post by Doc on May 30, 2006 11:57:09 GMT -5
yes, but if we shifted production slightly and didn't make as many new m4's it wouldn't be expensive, and ak's can handle ris, lights, 2x25 airburst greneade launchers, and drum mags and with the proper adjustments, can be made highly accurate as well as the fact that they are the most durtable gun ever.
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Post by dsbond on May 30, 2006 15:09:53 GMT -5
I figure the SR-47 would be more economical while maintaining compatibilty with existing US service equipment, rather than creating/acquiring the tooling to make a few US-produced modified AKM's for spec. ops.
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Post by Doc on May 30, 2006 21:21:12 GMT -5
than why not just send them inot the field with local weapons as it is
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Post by Colonel on May 31, 2006 18:35:29 GMT -5
because they are still US troops who like US guns that go bang in the night. besides, they make wang scared. :-)
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Post by Doc on May 31, 2006 21:29:21 GMT -5
good point, but the ak is more reliable and more readily available
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